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Re: papers for archive.org
On 28 April 2010 23:25, Phillip Bigelow <email@example.com> wrote:
> In theory, everything you said is true.
> Yet, I'll wager that a good 95% of the scientific literature from the 16th
> Century is still awaiting conversion to a digital medium, and that doesn't
> even include a substantial part of the literature from the 17th-20th Century.
> The date when that backlog will be converted is anyone's guess.
> Converting PDFs into a "new improved" format is the easy part. Converting
> everything that has already been put into PDF format is another matter
> The various disciplines in the scientific community should convene a
> conference and "standardized" a version of PDF (I vote for ver. 5), and
> require that all archives use that format ad infinitum. Adobe would be
> xxxxxxxx bricks over such an treasonous act by their own consumers, but
> legally the company would have no way to retaliate. No one would be
> infringing on their business (they could still sell new versions).
This would be great.
But better still would be the adoption of the PDF/A subformat
which is defined specifically for long-term archiving, and is
implemented from Acrobat 5 upwards (and in most of the alternative PDF
reading programs). Best of all, it's defined in an ISO standard, and
so not under the control of a commercial company with an unavoidable
(Bizarrely, the standard is not freely available -- you are supposed
to pay for downloads. But I think we all know that there are easy
ways to read most documents that you want to read.)
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: John Wilkins <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: dinosaur <email@example.com>
> Subject: Re: papers for archive.org
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:15:23 +1000
> On 28/04/2010, at 12:07 PM, Dann Pigdon wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 28th, 2010 at 11:49 AM, "Richard W. Travsky" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Phillip Bigelow wrote:
>>>> 100 years from now, there had better be something that can read ALL
>>>> files, or this "archival" concept is a joke.
>>> Adobe Reader 75.0
>> 'Google Adobe Reader 75.0' more likely.
> Having worked in electronic archiving at one time, allow me to say that data
> formats are transient anyway, and that material will be converted as a kind
> of standing wave of information from one older format to a newer one, so long
> as the formats are not proprietary and secret. PDF is relatively open, so
> except for the proprietary features for Reader 75.0, the content will be
> revised into some new format, such as EPub or DjVu periodically. Reliance on
> a single format is both fragile and unnecessary.
> So if you put it out in PDF, expect it to be converted to some other format
> in due course.
> John Wilkins, Assistant Professor, Philosophy, Bond Uni
> "Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows
> suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there'."
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